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>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow that way. i don't think this is any way should be relegated -- not relegated, but elevated to something on enemy combatant status. this is a crime against the people of the united states. it can be handled that way. i have every confidence in the justice department and state authorities in massachusetts to do that. >> douglas jones, thanks for joining us. we appreciate it. >> my pleasure. >> as boston tries to return to normal, what role will sports play? the sox and bruins are about to play here today. fans are honoring the city in a very special way. back
>> i think that's just a misunderstanding of the law. if you look back over the history over the last 20 years particularly, our justice system in the united states has worked very well in similar cases. look what happened in oklahoma city with timothy mcveigh who was not only convicted but suffered the death penalty. look what happened with eric rudolph with olympiapac park. the fbi can put this case together and be prosecuted in the courts of the united states and let justice follow...
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there was activity there where you had a lot of law enforcement, a lot of law enforcement in tactical gear, riot helmets and the like. that was this morning. >>> now, second location. you've got police questioning somebody. talking to somebody. but because of the way the cars are surrounding this particular individual, it's likely that he didn't have any sort of device on him. that's really what law enforcement is fearful of is, wolf, is this person on this wild ride, that he may have, in fact, dropped several pipe bombs. and that's the concern that officials are having. that's one of the big reasons that they told people that they really just need to shelter in place. so that is the active scene going on right now. the first scene this morning, that is a home, investigators, law enforcement very, very interested in a home. they are now searching that home, forensics, we're trying to still exactly determine who lived there, whether it was a friend, an associate or what they're doing there. right now, we've got a helicopter in the sky. that probably came at 8:00? 7:00, 8:00 this mornin
there was activity there where you had a lot of law enforcement, a lot of law enforcement in tactical gear, riot helmets and the like. that was this morning. >>> now, second location. you've got police questioning somebody. talking to somebody. but because of the way the cars are surrounding this particular individual, it's likely that he didn't have any sort of device on him. that's really what law enforcement is fearful of is, wolf, is this person on this wild ride, that he may have,...
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or our laws do not allow the fbi to follow-up in a sound, solid way. there was a lot to be learned from this guy. he was on websites talking about killing americans. he went overseas, as chuck indicated. he was clearly talking about radical ideas. he was visiting radical areas. it's people like this that you don't want to let out of your sight. and this was a mistake. i don't know if our laws are insufficient or the fbi failed, but we're at war with radical islamists and we need to up our game. >> the chairman of the house homeland security committee is also weighing in on this topic. he told our candy crowley that tamerlan tsarnaev received what he called training while in russia and he thinks tsarnaev made more than one trip to the region. we are learning more about the suspects from the russian republic of dagestan where they once lived. cnn can exclusively reveal alleged boston bomber tamerlan tsarnaev, the older brother, had video of jihadists on his youtube channel. let's check in with cnn's phil black in moscow. phil, what do you know about this
or our laws do not allow the fbi to follow-up in a sound, solid way. there was a lot to be learned from this guy. he was on websites talking about killing americans. he went overseas, as chuck indicated. he was clearly talking about radical ideas. he was visiting radical areas. it's people like this that you don't want to let out of your sight. and this was a mistake. i don't know if our laws are insufficient or the fbi failed, but we're at war with radical islamists and we need to up our game....
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that's when law enforcement hand cuffed him. as you look at those pictures, law enforcement was usie ining grenades. hearing tissue may be damaged during the course of this. it is unclear how much he is hearing. clearly not an ideal situation for investigators. doctors are trying to prevent any unnecessary stress to the body. that's why right now the investigators are second dare to what the doctors are trying to accomplish. anderson. >> all right. good information there. appreciate the update on that. we have learned a lot more obviously about these two suspected bombers in the weeks since the tragedy, but one person we have not heard a lot about is catherine russell. she's the wife of the suspect killed in the shootout. they do have a daughter. she's a toddler. what did he say? >> he said she learned about all this from the news reports and at no time new about what her husband was doing before this happened. we also learned that basically she is distraught. he says she's been crying a lot. he says she feels very strongly and
that's when law enforcement hand cuffed him. as you look at those pictures, law enforcement was usie ining grenades. hearing tissue may be damaged during the course of this. it is unclear how much he is hearing. clearly not an ideal situation for investigators. doctors are trying to prevent any unnecessary stress to the body. that's why right now the investigators are second dare to what the doctors are trying to accomplish. anderson. >> all right. good information there. appreciate the...
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right now law enforcement working. brooke, we'll get back to you. you know, erin, as we watch what's going on, we're here in boston. it's a pretty nerve racking situation. >> it is a nerve racking situation and they do believe the suspect's armed and dangerous and there could have been pipe bombs left around which creates a real sense of fear. >> which is why they're doing these controlled explosions. just to be precise what that means is experts go in there and detonate these bombs to make sure they don't kill anyone. >> that's right. they want to make sure there are no other casualties in the horror that's gone on the past few days. we're going to take a quick break. we'll be back with the live coverage of the breaking news manhunt here in boston. ♪ [ jen garner ] what skincare brand is so effective... so trusted... so clinically proven dermatologists recommend it twice as much as any other brand? neutrogena®. recommended by dermatologists 2 times more than any other brand. now that's beautiful. neutrogena®. ♪ neutrogena®. before i do any p
right now law enforcement working. brooke, we'll get back to you. you know, erin, as we watch what's going on, we're here in boston. it's a pretty nerve racking situation. >> it is a nerve racking situation and they do believe the suspect's armed and dangerous and there could have been pipe bombs left around which creates a real sense of fear. >> which is why they're doing these controlled explosions. just to be precise what that means is experts go in there and detonate these bombs...
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, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it. >> we've been talking about the weapons that these guys had. you know the gun control debate is coming into this. l.z., the centers failed to advance gun control that would have ics panded background checks and closed the gun show loophole. on friday, some gun rights activists said that the boston lockdown with residents warned to stay inside and not to answer their doors to anyone but police, they said it was a perfect justification for owning a gun. are we done with new gun control efforts and does this story, what's happening here
, federal or state law enforcement. that being said, they are human. mistakes sometimes are made. of course, it raises questions when you hear that the government of russia alerted us about this man and he was under questioning, was investigated and nothing happened. if there are questions that can lead to improving the protocol, to improving the process, to maybe catching a bad guy before he does heinous terrorist acts, i say, let's go through the process. we're all going to learn from it....
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it's not that law enforcement encountered them. they deliberately went afteran officer that had no clue this was coming and ambushed him. >> it certainly appears that way. >> they create td the situation. if you hear anything let us know. >> we want to get to deb freyerick in watertown. what are you seeing? >> a number of the vehicles and law enforcement officers who were here, they are beginning at least move away from this location, but we are being told that this is a very fast and fluid moving situation. that this is a very, very much ongoing. they still have not located him. they have a sense of where he is. we are being told that they believe he is watching everything that is going on. there is a big concern, law enforcement know he has explosives, he has explosives on him. he is tired, just witnessing his brother being killed or killed himself. not sure if he detonated the device he is wear. very big concern if this guy comes out, he may come out and go down in a blaze of glory, monitoring this, very, very careful as this un
it's not that law enforcement encountered them. they deliberately went afteran officer that had no clue this was coming and ambushed him. >> it certainly appears that way. >> they create td the situation. if you hear anything let us know. >> we want to get to deb freyerick in watertown. what are you seeing? >> a number of the vehicles and law enforcement officers who were here, they are beginning at least move away from this location, but we are being told that this is a...
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citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing any parallels between this case and that which you defended? >> well, there's certainly some parallels because you have the explosions and this wasn't -- fortunately, wasn't as devastating as the oklahoma city bombing was. but the trial is going to be as difficult, i believe, as the oklahoma city bombing. when you have to get in and get experts and bombing experts and people to help you learn how to blow up a bomb, build a bomb and clean up a bomb, that takes an extensive amount of time and a lot of expertise. whoever ends up defending this man is going to
citizenship as far as the law is concerned? >> no, i don't think it would make any difference at all, because when this occurred and when the action occurred, when the crime occurred, and when the refusal, if you will, to read him his miranda rights occurred he was a citizen. so i don't think that would matter at all. >> all right, fred. >> christopher, this is fredricka in atlanta. i'm wondering, given you defended timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city bombing case, are you seeing...
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and that's what law enforcement authorities are telling us, wolf. >> and these are federal charges, joe, so the attorney general, eric holder, he makes this decision, specific charges, when they're filed. it goes to the attorney general, right? >> well, it certainly is likely to go to the attorney general because of the attention this case has gotten. also, any decision as to whether to charge the defendant with a crime that is punishable by death is certainly something the attorney general of the united states would weigh in on. and that's what we're talking about, at least the potential of, for right now, wolf. >> all right, joe, we'll keep in close touch with you. i know you're working your sources at the justice department and the fbi. as soon as you get word, you'll let us know. we'll go into breaking news on that front. joe johns reporting from washington. meanwhile, the defense secretary chuck hagel spoke about the bombing investigation today. he said so far he has not seen any intelligence directly linking the surviving suspect and his older brother, the 26-year-old tamerlan tsa
and that's what law enforcement authorities are telling us, wolf. >> and these are federal charges, joe, so the attorney general, eric holder, he makes this decision, specific charges, when they're filed. it goes to the attorney general, right? >> well, it certainly is likely to go to the attorney general because of the attention this case has gotten. also, any decision as to whether to charge the defendant with a crime that is punishable by death is certainly something the attorney...
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we are hearing from local law enforcement that looks like the suspects were working alone. and that came from watertown police chief. he knows a lot of information, but can we say that at this point? >> congratulations to him and his officers, fantastic job, textbook job really. that's certainly the hope of everyone that they were operating alone, but i know that the fbi and others are concerned about the other explosives, for example, that were found in the apartment of the two brothers. >> how do you account for those, for the pressure cooker, the other weapons and all that stuff. >> exactly. it begs the question were they planning additional attacks? the third pressure cooker bomb they used in the pursuit, was that supposed to be deployed by a third person the day of the marathon? these are unanswered questions that i know law enforcement is working hard to try to resolve. >> could profiling have made a difference in this case? how do you determine if they were part of a larger cell? >> profiling is kind of a bad word, we don't like profiling. >> but you have profilers.
we are hearing from local law enforcement that looks like the suspects were working alone. and that came from watertown police chief. he knows a lot of information, but can we say that at this point? >> congratulations to him and his officers, fantastic job, textbook job really. that's certainly the hope of everyone that they were operating alone, but i know that the fbi and others are concerned about the other explosives, for example, that were found in the apartment of the two brothers....
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if you do see it, immediately contact law enforcement. cnn's carol costello has been piecing together the timeline of all of this, because in all the rush to report the latest information, it is easy to lose sight of how we got here and the extraordinary developments that we have seen over the last 24 hours in this fast and moving manhunt. take a look. >> reporter: it started thursday night at 5:10 when the fbi held an extraordinary news conference. >> today we are listing the public's help to identify the two suspects. after a very detailed analysis of photo, video and other evidence, we are releasing photos of these two suspects. they are identified as suspect one, and suspect two. they appear to be associated. suspect one is wearing a dark hat. suspect two is wearing a white hat. suspect two sat down a backpack at the site of the second explosion, just in front of the forum restaurant. >> reporter: thousands of tips poured in, flash forward to 10:00 p.m. thursday. >> a robbery took place. >> reporter: one of them captured on a surveill
if you do see it, immediately contact law enforcement. cnn's carol costello has been piecing together the timeline of all of this, because in all the rush to report the latest information, it is easy to lose sight of how we got here and the extraordinary developments that we have seen over the last 24 hours in this fast and moving manhunt. take a look. >> reporter: it started thursday night at 5:10 when the fbi held an extraordinary news conference. >> today we are listing the...
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there are laws where the law enforcement can't go into campuses and follow these students. if a parent can't check on a student, check their grades or classes or know if they're coming or going, that's a problem. the fbi can't either nor law enforcement. so, you know, the system has to get better but at the same time, citizens have rights. how can you keep a nation and country secure but at the same time afford the rights and freedoms that makes this the best and greatest nation to live in and to reside? >> it's not an easy balance. not an easy balance. thank you very much for the discussion. obviously we've got to figure this out. it's troubling to people because the more we learn about him being in russia and coming back and posting a video about a radicalizer who was there at the same time, it's frustrating. but limitations to every system. we're going to take a break. when we come back, we have brand new information just in about a phone conversation between the suspect's father and their uncle that may be a window into why this happened. it's lots of things. all waking
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police officer, seriously injured another local law enforcement officer. do we have any idea where they got those weapons? >> not yet. and i think that question also extends to the explosives, as well. but this is an investigation pursuing lots of lines of inquiry both foreign and domestic. i would have to guess, though, that rather than risk acquiring weapons and explosives from abroad, it's much more likely they were acquired domestically. >> these two guys apparently didn't have much money, but enough to buy explosives, pressure cookers, a rifle, long rifle according to the watertown police chief i spoke with. other weapons, as well. >> i'm sure they're already well into the suspect's computer files and financial records. we're getting a mixed picture because on the one hand, they seem to have had a modest style of living. on the other hand, there is that picture that's been widely circulated of suspect number one wearing expensive shoes, expensive clothes, other reports by people who knew them that the older brother engaged in a more lavish lifestyle.
police officer, seriously injured another local law enforcement officer. do we have any idea where they got those weapons? >> not yet. and i think that question also extends to the explosives, as well. but this is an investigation pursuing lots of lines of inquiry both foreign and domestic. i would have to guess, though, that rather than risk acquiring weapons and explosives from abroad, it's much more likely they were acquired domestically. >> these two guys apparently didn't have...
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what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as the bush administration has in the past and as they have acted in other terrorist cases by using the normal criminal procedures. >> because lindsey graham and others say, yes, he should be tried as a u.s. citizen, should be tried in a u.s. civilian court, but that can await this process of doing some serious interrogation of him and designating him as an enemy combatant in the meantime. all of this is moot right now, because as you know, yesterday, he was formally given his miranda rights and a judge magistrate at his bed s
what does the law say? >> every terrorist suspect arrested in the united states, since the first world trade center bombing in 1993 has been treated in the criminal justice system, not as an enemy combatant. standard operating procedure. frankly, the whole status of enemy combatant remains ambiguous in the legal system. the prisoners in guantanamo bay remain in legal limbo. by treating them as criminal suspects, the obama administration is avoiding all kinds of risks and simply acting as...